Ianthe’s Inferno: okay so one more thing
do white people confuse slavery with like taking somones toys without returning it?
then i could understand the whole get over it movement (cant excuse it but can understand it)
its one thing to steal something and never return it
but we’re talking about millions of…
Can we talk about how there’s something fundamentally twisted about this? Not the white people saying that we need to get over slavery, though that is twisted.
The fact that you’re dividing the world into two binaries, neither of which is accurate, is pretty cruel and unfair. I don’t think anybody is saying slavery isn’t bad. Basically everybody acknowledges how horrible it was and how awful the repercussions are.
But here’s the issue with dwelling on it: Slavery isn’t the problem anymore. Sitting here, crossing our legs and twiddling our thumbs while saying, “Wasn’t that simply atrocious? White people should be ashamed they committed such acts!”
We’ve got to deal with the present-day consequences instead of focusing on the act that lead up to the issues. I’m not saying we ignore the past. I’m just saying we should try to deal with modern-day racism and discrimination instead of shitting about with history.
Broham the present day consequences are a result of slavery.
this is what black people mean when we mean slavery.
we mean the shit we still deal with as a result of being slaves.
I am a reminder that twelve million crossed the Atlantic Ocean and the past is not yet over. I am the progeny of the captives. I am the vestige of the dead. And history is how the secular world attends to the dead. [page 18]
Saidiya Hartman
“I’m just saying we should try to deal with modern-day racism and discrimination instead of shitting about with history.”
so how do u suggest we do that without hurting white people fee fee;s?
I don’t think most people care to conceptualize what the present day consequences of slavery are in addition to the fact that when the Constitution was ratified to outlaw slavery that didn’t mean we had a far more significant station in life. All that really meant was that we were able to move where we wish. That’s about the only immediate positive effect that slavery had, but still most people could not afford to move.
“All that really meant was that we were able to move where we wish.”
Um, no we werent.
Word. White folks enacted them vagrancy laws quick, fast and in a hurry once slavery ended. They wanted us to work like we did when we were slaves, and if we dared to want to be treated like human beings? We got thrown in jail.
That’s right. Black people got thrown in jail for demanding fair wages from white people.
So please, let’s stop this cookie cutter mess.
People had to sneak out of town during the Great Migration to avoid being arrested & forced to work for the same farmers that were ripping them off under the sharecropping system. And let’s not pretend that lynchings were more likely to be about money than any crime.